Apple vs Dell: When notebooks collide
Posted by Jaymz, October 16th, 2006 in Hardware, Mac, Tech, WindowsI haven’t really mentioned this on the site, except the update on the hardware page, but a little over two months ago, I bought myself a notebook. A Dell Inspiron 640m, to be exact (which you may know in the US as the Inspiron E1405). I primarily got it as a portable media & Windows-based coding machine, as well as to test out Vista as a mobile OS. I don’t intend to play games on it, or do anything but rudimentary 3D. CPU and overall system performance is important, but not at the expense of its mobility - hence, I wanted a small, durable notebook that packs enough punch as possible without limiting the mobility factor.
Of course, Apple’s MacBook came to mind when deciding on what to get, but I didn’t really need a mobile Mac desktop, and the 640m was being offered with more RAM and hard drive space for less than the entry level MacBook (plus a pretty cool 2 year even-if-you-piss-on-it accidental cover warranty), so I put my MacFaggotry aside and went for Dell’s choice instead. The standard 1.83GHz model Core Duo MacBook lands you at around $1749 AUD. My Dell came with a 1.83GHz Core 2 Duo (which isn’t a huge leap in performance, and the only additional good thing about it is the x64 support), 1GB of RAM, and a 120GB HD - double the memory and storage of the MacBook, plus a 14″ 1440×900 res screen, and the higher yield battery, all for $1699 AUD.
While I love my new notebook to death, and while the deal was definitely too good to pass up, I always felt that maybe, just maybe, I should have opted for form over function, and stuck with the MacBook instead. My housemate gave me the opportunity to see whether that twinge of regret was right or not.
If you know me personally, or on the ‘net from somewhere, you’ll know that I’m a pretty big MacFag. I love OS X to death, and if it had better media playback solutions, if the Mac Pro supported off-the-shelf PCI Express video cards under OS X, and if I could run my games under it, then I’d happily sell all my assorted shit, and just stick with a Mac Pro, maybe the Mac mini as a secondary system, and a MacBook to suit my portable needs. However, the reality of the situation is that media playback continues to suck on OS X, games are all for Windows, and despite there being Mac versions of about 98% of the stuff I use (aside from media and games), the 2% of stuff that isn’t keeps drawing me back, or some of that 98% is just developed better under Windows. There are the security concerns, but I’ve always been levelheaded, and never had any kind of serious security breach under Windows to begin with - and Vista looks more and more like it’ll address pretty much all the traditional attack vectors where these things come in, anyways.
However, an OS comparison isn’t the point of this thread - my only intention is to explain where I’m coming from. I like OS X more, but Windows suits my functional needs a lot better. Hence, I’m stuck with both Macs and PCs, and this will be unlikely to change in the apparent future. Thankfully for my wallet, my Mac mini pretty much handles everything I need from the Mac, and with its CPU and RAM upgrade, it should last me well into the future. The only limiting factor is hard drive space - but this is true whether I have 80GB, or 800GB (and probably will continue to be when I reach 8TB).
Anyways, back to the original point of this thread. I got suckered into a Dell notebook, and still lusted after a MacBook, despite for one, welcoming my new Dell overlords. The interesting part of this whole situation is when my housemate, Braden, got himself a 2GHz MacBook, and asked me to install Windows XP on it for him, plus treat it with my special codec recipe of goodness. After playing with it a bit, I discovered that I no longer regretted my Dell purchase, and discovered new things to like about my Dell. The shocking truth, ladies and gentlemen? For a Windows notebook, the MacBook sucks. In fact, many aspects about the suckage are hardware related, and as such, is OS independent, but the Windows side of things makes it all the more obvious.
First suckage? Damn, momma.. she be runnin’ hot. An hour of running off the battery, and it’s impossible to seat this thing on your lap, lest you’re naturally resilient to heat, and don’t plan on fathering children. It’s not like I was doing anything particularly strenuous on it, either.. just some wireless web browsing. The Dell doesn’t even get comfortably warm in my lap, after a few hours of streaming H.264 MKV’s off of Saber, or installing software. It’s not as white, uniform, and pleasant to look at as the MacBook, but it’s certainly a lot more functional and better thought out in terms of thermal issues. I like eye candy as much as the next guy, but not to the point where it affects the machine in such a detrimental manner. We’ve all heard about the horror stories of thermal paste bukkake going on inside these things, but I really don’t think taking the MacBook apart, and applying new thermal paste in a saner manner is a proper fix for the issue. It’s too damn hot, Apple. You need to address that, even if it takes a recall, or it makes the next model slightly less aesthetically pleasing. People need to be able to use the damn things, and should expect it to last slightly longer than maybe two or three years.
Second suckage? Worst. Speakers. Ever. I don’t know how the MacBook Pro compares, but the speakers in the MacBook are tinnier than an Outback shithouse. I honestly never realised how good the Dell’s builtin speakers were, until I was able to compare them to the MacBook’s speakers. In fact, the whole notion of comparing these two notebooks never crossed my mind, until I was able to draw a direct comparison between the speakers on my Dell, and Braden’s notebook. The MacBook’s speakers are so shitty; they inspired me to write this post. That has to say something. Granted, my 640m’s speakers would probably make audiophiles break out in hives, and certainly don’t compare to a $400 set of Logitech 5.1’s, but it’s definitely capable of being listened to. They’re probably as good as a cheap or affordable stereo television’s speakers. Granted, I primarily use my notebook with a set of headphones if I’m using them for media, but it’s nice to be able to play back stuff for other people and have their ears not bleed. Here’s a protip, Apple: If people who aren’t initially MacFags go out and buy a MacBook, they’re doing so because it’s like having a larger, widescreen iPod with additional computer stuff tagged on. It’s obvious as hell that the 640m was designed with media playback in mind, in addition to portability. Try to think of portable media playback a bit more when you develop the next version.
Third suckage? Battery life in Windows XP. Now.. this last one could be a bit tricky, because Vista might be delivering on its promise of better mobile features. Furthermore, the MacBook has a bunch of specialised hardware and logic within that XP may not be able to utilise to save power. Also, I did buy my Dell with a “supersized” battery - I know the normal one is pretty crap, and I wanted this notebook to be able to remain as mobile as possible. However, with the limited testing and messing around we did, we generally have somewhere between 2 to 3 and a bit hours under Windows XP on the MacBook. My Dell, which has been used extensively since I got it, averages out about 6 hours of general to medium-heavy usage, and up to 8 hours of light usage. I haven’t used XP much on this notebook, so I honestly don’t know what the norm is - the Dell has pretty much been running various Vista builds since the day I got it. From pre-RC1 (54xx something), up to RC2 (5744) currently.
Let me reiterate. Web browsing, a bit of IM, a fair amount of XviD/H.264 playback at decent (generally 640 by whatever or greater) resolutions, and to top it off, wireless usage, nets me at least 6 hours of battery life. I don’t normally start taking the brightness down, until it starts to get within the last hour or two of usage - and that can usually stretch out the time a bit more. I haven’t been a mobile user for all that long, but I’m confident in that being pretty damn fucking good power management in any man’s language. Maybe Vista really does have magic voodoo in it that makes notebooks with okay battery lives suddenly obtain fucking awesome battery lives, or maybe XP just sucks as a mobile OS. I’ll be happy to do more extensive OS X testing of the battery life if demands call for it, but my original purchase intentions were for a Windows based system, and due to compatibility issues with Vista and Apple hardware, XP would probably be what I’d run on it.
So.. for a saving of $50, I not only got twice the memory, twice the storage, better expansion support, an integrated media card reader (which is awesome for using with ReadyBoost under Vista), and a processor with x64 support and marginal performance increases in specific applications (but not really anything you’d see in the real world), but I also got far superior thermal management, far superior speakers and media capabilities (and by that, I mean the higher res screen and handy media buttons - not the shittastic Dell software), and possibly far longer battery life. What does the MacBook have that this system doesn’t? Well, it’s more aesthetically pleasing, and it’s a mobile OS X platform. Oh, and Gigabit Ethernet support. That’s it. I love Apple hardware as much as the next MacFag, but form rarely ever wins over function for me. It can’t just look better, it has to be better.
I’m sorry to say, but the Inspiron 640m? It just is better. That may not win me a lot of eCred with the blogosphere circle jerk crowd, but at least I’m still capable of producing offspring past that one hour mark. Feel free to discredit my findings and call me a faggot below.
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I typed this in whilst slacking off at work, so the grammar was shit, and a few mispelt words (ie, definately) kept creeping in. Now that my spelling is betterer, you faggots can find other reasons to bitch about how wrong I am, as opposed to attacking my spelling and/or comparing me to Hitler. :nazi:
^o^/ Well you aren’t on, but I want to gush about my new MacBook Pro and compare it to the most similarly speced Dell I could build on the website. I used an educational discount on the mac and a 20% off coupon on the DELL to make them as fairly matched as possible. I, of course, will have to wait a couple of weeks before I can give any experience with the quality of the actual product.
I’ll bold the advantages of each product:
Here are the specs of my MacBook Pro which cost me $2006… =D Kind of appropriate for the year ($2245 including 3yr-warranty) . It does make it the single biggest purchase of my life.
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2×1GB
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
Dual-Layer SuperDrive 6X
128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1600(I’ll be curious to find what it is clocked at when I get it)
15.4″ Glossy 1440×900 screen
54-Mbps AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
60-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
85W MagSafe Power Adapter
Dimensions:
Height: 1.0 inch (2.59 cm)
Width: 14.1 inches (35.7 cm)
Depth: 9.6 inches (24.3 cm)
Weight: 5.6 pounds
Ports:
2 USB 2.0
1 FireWire 800
1 FireWire 400
DVI out
Combined optical digital input/audio line in (minijack) (If the Dell has it, they don’t list it)
Software:
OS X 10.4
iLife ‘06
iWork ‘06
Photo Booth
Front Row
Also includes apple remote and iSight camera
I also bought Aperature 1.5 for $149 and a 3yr-warranty for $239
Now for the Dell (Inspiron E1505) Total $2408 (3yr-warranty included)
2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2×1GB
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
Dual-layer 8X CD/DVD Burner
256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400HyperMemory™
15.4″ 1680×1050 screen (Note: I don’t know about screen quality, I’m just bolding this for its 36% higher resolution)
Dell Wireless 1390b/g
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0 Enhanced Data Rate)
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Dimensions:
Height: 1.44″ (36 mm)
Width: 14″ (356 mm)
Depth: 10.45″ (265.5 mm)
Weight: 6.0 pounds
Ports:
4 USB 2.0 (I have 4 USB divices, so I’d actually prefer the USB ports to the FireWire ones on the MacBook Pro)
VGA-Out
Software:
Windows XP Pro
Microsoft Office Small Business Ed
Corel Photo Album 6 Premium -Photo Management
Sonic DigitalMedia and MyDVD Plus
Whatever other garbage DELL pre-installs
So in conclusion, from the hardware side, the MacBook Pros currently fare better against the DELLs than the MacBooks do. I’d say that the plusses of the MacBook Pro far outweigh the pros of the Inspiron in this catagory.
It may sound odd coming from me, but you can’t go by specs alone. I mean.. some specs are important. The MacBook Pro’s X1600XT (even with 128MB VRAM) would be far better for gaming than the X1400XT with Hypermemory (which means it steals system RAM for VRAM, and is nowhere near as good as dedicated VRAM). The longer battery life in the E1505 (aka the Inspiron 6400 in this country) would be important for those with more mobile needs, etc, etc..
Ultimately, it depends on what you want to do. For me, I need a strong, mobile platform that’s dependable and runs what I need. The deal was a great deal at the time, and I admit that - it was just a deal. At the base prices, the two aren’t that different, and while I’m not privvy to student discounts, I can get Mac hardware a lot cheaper than the average person.
For my purposes, a MacBook Pro would be too much, and far too large a notebook to carry around. At the time I got my 640m, I could have gotten a similar deal on the 6400 for a lot cheaper, and invested the extra money in a graphics option that didn’t suck, but the mobility was the most important thing for me.
My complaint was never the price - both systems were in the pricerange I was looking at, and I just got lucky on my 640m’s/E1405’s extras. The complaint was that I expected more from the MacBook, and I was surprised by how my 640m dispelled a hell of a lot of myths regarding Dell for me.
*Nods* My needs are quite different from yours. Living in Japan temporarily, I don’t want to have a tower (to say nothing about the premium of space in Japan and my apartment specifically), so I’m looking for a desktop replacement that will last me years. I actually forgot to include something in the specs above. I upgraded the Dell’s battery, but didn’t include the increased weight. With that battery the Dell is almost a full pound heavier than the mac. While I primarily use my notebook at home (95% of the time), I also take it to school with me on occassion. The battery life of the Mac is adequate for that and the added weight isn’t worth the extended battery life of the Dell. Anyway, ^o^/ I’ll give you more impressions when I get it.
I switched. From a Mac to Windows. I like Macs and I will have one again one day, but…
I just got a Dell E1505, Core2Duo 2GHz, 2GB, 160GB hd, X1400 256MB (128MB dedicated) and a 3 year warranty for $1250US. A similar MacBook Pro would cost twice that.
Windows has less style, and does multitask a little worse and handles ram a little worse, but not that much worse, and I find Windows to be as stable as Mac OSX, maybe even more so since I remember getting a lot of “application unexpectedly quit” errors on Macs.
Anyhow, I’m a happier computer use since I quit being such a fanboy of any brand and just getting what I think will do the job well for the best price. Lately, that has been windows machines. I can also build awesome Windows desktops using mostly the same chips as Apple for about half price as well.
I miss my Macs, but, not that much.