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		<title>By: count_schemula</title>
		<link>http://www.respectsakura.org/2006/10/16/apple-vs-dell/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>count_schemula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 10:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I switched. From a Mac to Windows. I like Macs and I will have one again one day, but...

I just got a Dell E1505, Core2Duo 2GHz, 2GB, 160GB hd, X1400 256MB (128MB dedicated) and a 3 year warranty for $1250US. A similar MacBook Pro would cost twice that.

Windows has less style, and does multitask a little worse and handles ram a little worse, but not that much worse, and I find Windows to be as stable as Mac OSX, maybe even more so since I remember getting a lot of "application unexpectedly quit" errors on Macs.

Anyhow, I'm a happier computer use since I quit being such a fanboy of any brand and just getting what I think will do the job well for the best price. Lately, that has been windows machines. I can also build awesome Windows desktops using mostly the same chips as Apple for about half price as well.

I miss my Macs, but, not that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switched. From a Mac to Windows. I like Macs and I will have one again one day, but&#8230;</p>
<p>I just got a Dell E1505, Core2Duo 2GHz, 2GB, 160GB hd, X1400 256MB (128MB dedicated) and a 3 year warranty for $1250US. A similar MacBook Pro would cost twice that.</p>
<p>Windows has less style, and does multitask a little worse and handles ram a little worse, but not that much worse, and I find Windows to be as stable as Mac OSX, maybe even more so since I remember getting a lot of &#8220;application unexpectedly quit&#8221; errors on Macs.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;m a happier computer use since I quit being such a fanboy of any brand and just getting what I think will do the job well for the best price. Lately, that has been windows machines. I can also build awesome Windows desktops using mostly the same chips as Apple for about half price as well.</p>
<p>I miss my Macs, but, not that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.respectsakura.org/2006/10/16/apple-vs-dell/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Nods* My needs are quite different from yours.  Living in Japan temporarily, I don't want to have a tower (to say nothing about the premium of space in Japan and my apartment specifically), so I'm looking for a desktop replacement that will last me years.  I actually forgot to include something in the specs above.  I upgraded the Dell's battery, but didn't include the increased weight.  With that battery the Dell is almost a full pound heavier than the mac.  While I primarily use my notebook at home (95% of the time), I also take it to school with me on occassion.  The battery life of the Mac is adequate for that and the added weight isn't worth the extended battery life of the Dell.  Anyway, ^o^/ I'll give you more impressions when I get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Nods* My needs are quite different from yours.  Living in Japan temporarily, I don&#8217;t want to have a tower (to say nothing about the premium of space in Japan and my apartment specifically), so I&#8217;m looking for a desktop replacement that will last me years.  I actually forgot to include something in the specs above.  I upgraded the Dell&#8217;s battery, but didn&#8217;t include the increased weight.  With that battery the Dell is almost a full pound heavier than the mac.  While I primarily use my notebook at home (95% of the time), I also take it to school with me on occassion.  The battery life of the Mac is adequate for that and the added weight isn&#8217;t worth the extended battery life of the Dell.  Anyway, ^o^/ I&#8217;ll give you more impressions when I get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaymz</title>
		<link>http://www.respectsakura.org/2006/10/16/apple-vs-dell/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaymz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may sound odd coming from me, but you can't go by specs alone. I mean.. some specs are important. The MacBook Pro's X1600XT (even with 128MB VRAM) would be far better for gaming than the X1400XT with Hypermemory (which means it steals system RAM for VRAM, and is nowhere near as good as dedicated VRAM). The longer battery life in the E1505 (aka the Inspiron 6400 in this country) would be important for those with more mobile needs, etc, etc..

Ultimately, it depends on what you want to do. For me, I need a strong, mobile platform that's dependable and runs what I need. The deal was a great deal at the time, and I admit that - it was just a deal. At the base prices, the two aren't that different, and while I'm not privvy to student discounts, I can get Mac hardware a lot cheaper than the average person.

For my purposes, a MacBook Pro would be too much, and far too large a notebook to carry around. At the time I got my 640m, I could have gotten a similar deal on the 6400 for a lot cheaper, and invested the extra money in a graphics option that didn't suck, but the mobility was the most important thing for me.

My complaint was never the price - both systems were in the pricerange I was looking at, and I just got lucky on my 640m's/E1405's extras. The complaint was that I expected more from the MacBook, and I was surprised by how my 640m dispelled a hell of a lot of myths regarding Dell for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may sound odd coming from me, but you can&#8217;t go by specs alone. I mean.. some specs are important. The MacBook Pro&#8217;s X1600XT (even with 128MB VRAM) would be far better for gaming than the X1400XT with Hypermemory (which means it steals system RAM for VRAM, and is nowhere near as good as dedicated VRAM). The longer battery life in the E1505 (aka the Inspiron 6400 in this country) would be important for those with more mobile needs, etc, etc..</p>
<p>Ultimately, it depends on what you want to do. For me, I need a strong, mobile platform that&#8217;s dependable and runs what I need. The deal was a great deal at the time, and I admit that - it was just a deal. At the base prices, the two aren&#8217;t that different, and while I&#8217;m not privvy to student discounts, I can get Mac hardware a lot cheaper than the average person.</p>
<p>For my purposes, a MacBook Pro would be too much, and far too large a notebook to carry around. At the time I got my 640m, I could have gotten a similar deal on the 6400 for a lot cheaper, and invested the extra money in a graphics option that didn&#8217;t suck, but the mobility was the most important thing for me.</p>
<p>My complaint was never the price - both systems were in the pricerange I was looking at, and I just got lucky on my 640m&#8217;s/E1405&#8217;s extras. The complaint was that I expected more from the MacBook, and I was surprised by how my 640m dispelled a hell of a lot of myths regarding Dell for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.respectsakura.org/2006/10/16/apple-vs-dell/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^o^/ Well you aren't on, but I want to gush about my new MacBook Pro and compare it to the most similarly speced Dell I could build on the website.  I used an educational discount on the mac and a 20% off coupon on the DELL to make them as fairly matched as possible.  I, of course, will have to wait a couple of weeks before I can give any experience with the quality of the actual product.

I'll bold the advantages of each product:

Here are the specs of my MacBook Pro which cost me $2006... =D Kind of appropriate for the year ($2245 including 3yr-warranty) .  It does make it the single biggest purchase of my life.  

2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2x1GB
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
Dual-Layer SuperDrive 6X
&lt;b&gt;128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1600(I'll be curious to find what it is clocked at when I get it)&lt;/b&gt;
15.4" Glossy 1440x900 screen
54-Mbps AirPort Extreme
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)
60-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery
85W MagSafe Power Adapter

Dimensions:
&lt;b&gt;Height: 1.0 inch (2.59 cm)&lt;/b&gt;
Width: 14.1 inches (35.7 cm)
&lt;b&gt;Depth: 9.6 inches (24.3 cm)
Weight: 5.6 pounds&lt;/b&gt;

Ports:
2 USB 2.0
&lt;b&gt;1 FireWire 800
1 FireWire 400&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;DVI out&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Combined optical digital input/audio line in (minijack) (If the Dell has it, they don't list it)&lt;/b&gt;

Software:
OS X 10.4
iLife '06
iWork '06
Photo Booth
Front Row

&lt;b&gt;Also includes apple remote and iSight camera&lt;/b&gt;

I also bought Aperature 1.5 for $149 and a 3yr-warranty for $239

Now for the Dell (Inspiron E1505) Total $2408 (3yr-warranty included)

2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2x1GB
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
&lt;b&gt;Dual-layer 8X CD/DVD Burner&lt;/b&gt;
256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400HyperMemory™
&lt;b&gt;15.4" 1680x1050 screen (Note: I don't know about screen quality, I'm just bolding this for its 36% higher resolution)&lt;/b&gt;
Dell Wireless 1390b/g
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0   Enhanced Data Rate) 
&lt;b&gt;85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery&lt;/b&gt;

Dimensions:
Height: 1.44" (36 mm)
&lt;b&gt;Width: 14" (356 mm)&lt;/b&gt;
Depth: 10.45" (265.5 mm)
Weight: 6.0 pounds

Ports:
&lt;b&gt;4 USB 2.0&lt;/b&gt; (I have 4 USB divices, so I'd actually prefer the USB ports to the FireWire ones on the MacBook Pro)
VGA-Out

Software:
Windows XP Pro
Microsoft Office Small Business Ed
Corel Photo Album 6 Premium -Photo Management
Sonic DigitalMedia and MyDVD Plus
Whatever other garbage DELL pre-installs

So in conclusion, from the hardware side, the MacBook Pros currently fare better against the DELLs than the MacBooks do.  I'd say that the plusses of the MacBook Pro far outweigh the pros of the Inspiron in this catagory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^o^/ Well you aren&#8217;t on, but I want to gush about my new MacBook Pro and compare it to the most similarly speced Dell I could build on the website.  I used an educational discount on the mac and a 20% off coupon on the DELL to make them as fairly matched as possible.  I, of course, will have to wait a couple of weeks before I can give any experience with the quality of the actual product.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bold the advantages of each product:</p>
<p>Here are the specs of my MacBook Pro which cost me $2006&#8230; =D Kind of appropriate for the year ($2245 including 3yr-warranty) .  It does make it the single biggest purchase of my life.  </p>
<p>2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache<br />
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2&#215;1GB<br />
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm<br />
Dual-Layer SuperDrive 6X<br />
<b>128MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1600(I&#8217;ll be curious to find what it is clocked at when I get it)</b><br />
15.4&#8243; Glossy 1440&#215;900 screen<br />
54-Mbps AirPort Extreme<br />
Built-in Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Enhanced Data Rate)<br />
60-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery<br />
85W MagSafe Power Adapter</p>
<p>Dimensions:<br />
<b>Height: 1.0 inch (2.59 cm)</b><br />
Width: 14.1 inches (35.7 cm)<br />
<b>Depth: 9.6 inches (24.3 cm)<br />
Weight: 5.6 pounds</b></p>
<p>Ports:<br />
2 USB 2.0<br />
<b>1 FireWire 800<br />
1 FireWire 400</b><br />
<b>DVI out</b><br />
<b>Combined optical digital input/audio line in (minijack) (If the Dell has it, they don&#8217;t list it)</b></p>
<p>Software:<br />
OS X 10.4<br />
iLife &#8216;06<br />
iWork &#8216;06<br />
Photo Booth<br />
Front Row</p>
<p><b>Also includes apple remote and iSight camera</b></p>
<p>I also bought Aperature 1.5 for $149 and a 3yr-warranty for $239</p>
<p>Now for the Dell (Inspiron E1505) Total $2408 (3yr-warranty included)</p>
<p>2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 4MB on-chip shared L2 cache<br />
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM2&#215;1GB<br />
120GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm<br />
<b>Dual-layer 8X CD/DVD Burner</b><br />
256MB ATI MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1400HyperMemory™<br />
<b>15.4&#8243; 1680&#215;1050 screen (Note: I don&#8217;t know about screen quality, I&#8217;m just bolding this for its 36% higher resolution)</b><br />
Dell Wireless 1390b/g<br />
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0   Enhanced Data Rate)<br />
<b>85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery</b></p>
<p>Dimensions:<br />
Height: 1.44&#8243; (36 mm)<br />
<b>Width: 14&#8243; (356 mm)</b><br />
Depth: 10.45&#8243; (265.5 mm)<br />
Weight: 6.0 pounds</p>
<p>Ports:<br />
<b>4 USB 2.0</b> (I have 4 USB divices, so I&#8217;d actually prefer the USB ports to the FireWire ones on the MacBook Pro)<br />
VGA-Out</p>
<p>Software:<br />
Windows XP Pro<br />
Microsoft Office Small Business Ed<br />
Corel Photo Album 6 Premium -Photo Management<br />
Sonic DigitalMedia and MyDVD Plus<br />
Whatever other garbage DELL pre-installs</p>
<p>So in conclusion, from the hardware side, the MacBook Pros currently fare better against the DELLs than the MacBooks do.  I&#8217;d say that the plusses of the MacBook Pro far outweigh the pros of the Inspiron in this catagory.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaymz</title>
		<link>http://www.respectsakura.org/2006/10/16/apple-vs-dell/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaymz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I typed this in whilst slacking off at work, so the grammar was shit, and a few mispelt words (ie, definately) kept creeping in. Now that my spelling is betterer, you faggots can find other reasons to bitch about how wrong I am, as opposed to attacking my spelling and/or comparing me to Hitler. :nazi:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I typed this in whilst slacking off at work, so the grammar was shit, and a few mispelt words (ie, definately) kept creeping in. Now that my spelling is betterer, you faggots can find other reasons to bitch about how wrong I am, as opposed to attacking my spelling and/or comparing me to Hitler. :nazi:</p>
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